Ireland v Scotland 2000-2009

Date	Location	Home		Away
2000	Croke Park	Ireland	2-10-15 (57)	Scotland	3-3-5 (32)
2001
2002	Croke Park	Ireland	2-0-13 (19)	Scotland	4-1-1 (15)
2003	Fort William	Scotland	3-7 (16)	Ireland	5-9 (24)
2004	Ratoath	Ireland	3-10 (19)	Scotland	4-7 (19)
2005	Bught Park	Scotland	20	Ireland	17
2006	Croke Park	Ireland	2-5 (11)	Scotland	2-13 (19)
2007
2008	Durrow	Ireland	1-9 (12)	Scotland	1-10 (13)
2009	Bught Park	Scotland	1-8 (11)	Ireland	1-11 (14)

Venues

Venue	Location
Bught Park	Inverness, Highlands, Scotland
Croke Park	Dublin, Ireland
Cusack Park	Ennis, Co. Clare, Ireland
Pairc Esler	Newry, Co. Down, Ireland
Fort William	Highlands, Scotland
Athy	Co. Kildare, Ireland
Ratoath	Co. Meath, Ireland

Report

Ireland and Scotland have shared honours almost equally between 2000 and 2009, with Ireland going on a winning streak from 2000-2003, before Scotland won from 2005-2008. In 2010 the series became a home-and-away series with the aggregate score over two legs deciding the winners.

About

The first Hurling-Shinty International Rules match was played back in 1897 in Glasgow between Cowal (Scotland) and Celtic (Dublin). [1] There have been regular Internationals between Ireland and Scotland since 2000.

Shinty is very similar to Hurling and the two games would have the same Gaelic Celtic origin with Shinty most popular in Gaelic Scots part of Scotland, particularly the Highlands. The game, however, does not include over-the-bar points, only goals and there is less play in the air than in Hurling.

The International Rules series includes points-over-the-bar and in the early 2000s included ‘behinds’ like in International Rules Football between Ireland and Australia.

The scoring system is three points for a goal and one for a point (over-the-bar). In 2012 an experimental scoring system was used whereby a goal was worth 5 points. From 2000-2003 a scoring system was employed whereby a goal was worth 6 points, an ‘over’ 3 points, and a ‘behind’ (a score into posts either side of the two main posts) 1 point.

13-a-side or 14-a-side have both been employed, halfway between Hurling’s 15-a-side and Shinty’s 12-a-side. Bot teams play with their own sticks, so it is a game played with two different sets of equipment.

References

Sources

[1] (2000) “SHINTY”. Nenagh Guardian. Saturday, October 21, 2000. pg. 18-19

[2] (2000) “Gantley shunts Shinty stars”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 16, 2000. p. 26-27.

[3] (2002) “Clinical O’Leary and Keane sink Scotland”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 21, 2002. p. 40-41.

[4] (2003) “Ireland 24 Scotland 16”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 27, 2003. p. 34.

[5] (2004) “Ireland 3-10 Scotland 4-7”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 18, 2004. p. 30-31.

[6] (2005) “Loughlin’s heroics not enough to save Irish unbeaten run”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 10, 2005. p. 46-47.

[7] (2006) “Shinty double for Scotland”. Irish Independent. Monday, November 6, 2006. p. 38-39.

[8] (2008) “GAA Scoreboard: Shinty”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 20, 2008. p. 26-27.

[9] (2009) “Dooley goal ends six-year wait for title”. Irish Independent. Monday, November 2, 2009. pp. 46-47.

Past copies of the Irish Independent and Nenagh Guardian can be found at the Irish Newspaper Archive which is a subscription service: http://www.irishnewsarchive.com

Images

[22] Donegal Daily (2017) GAA Logo [Internet] Available from: http://www.donegaldaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/gaa-logo.png [Accessed 2 December 2017]

[23] Camanachd Association (2017) Camanachd Association Logo [Internet] https://www.shinty.com/uploads/news-images/_w800fit/camanach-logo-wide.jpg [Accessed 9 March 2018]

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Conor Connolly-Mulcahy & Dara Conolly-Mulcahy

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Last Updated: 22 December 2020

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Results

Date	Venue	Home Team		Away Team
1988	Bught Park	Scotland	4	Ireland	6
1989	Croke Park	Ireland	4	Scotland	5
1990	Bught Park	Scotland	5	Ireland	3
1991	Pairc an Gael	Ireland	6	Scotland	6
1992	Bught Park	Scotland	3	Ireland	6
1993	Bught Park	Scotland	4	Ireland	2
1994	Athenry	Ireland	3	Scotland	3
1995	Fort William	Scotland	5	Ireland	4
1996	Clare	Ireland	0-10 (10)	Scotland	3-8 (17)
1997	Croke Park	Ireland	1-9 (12)	Scotland	3-8 (17)
1998		Scotland	0-12 (12)	Ireland	0-7 (7)
1999		Scotland	3-6 (15)	Ireland	2-1 (7)

Report

The Hurling-Shinty International Series between Ireland and Scotland, which had been discontinued in 1980, was revived in 1988. The first five encounters were fairly evenly matched, and Ireland split the series 2-2 with Scotland, with one drawn match. From then on Scotland took over, winning 6 of the next seven encounters, with one tie, despite the scoring system changing from goals only to goals (3 Points) and overs (1 point) in 1996, which should have given Ireland an advantage as the Scottish game is played mostly on the gounnd with no overs. It was said in one report in the Irish Independent in 1999, that the Irish failed to care enough. With a new millennium dawning a new approach was necessary from Ireland, it was said.

About Hurling-Shinty International Rules

Hurling-Shinty International Rules, also known as Compromise Rules, is a game featuring as its name suggests a compromise between the two codes of Gaelic Hurling: Irish Hurling (15-a-side and Points over the bar as well as goals) and Scottish Shinty (12-a-side, Goals only). currently the sport is 14-a-side with both goals and points over tha bar counting, although in the past 13-a-side has been used, as well numerous scoring systems, such as Goals-and-points, Goals-only, Goals-and-Points-with-a-double-score-for-a-Scottish-Shinty-Point (Shinty is played on the ground, giving Hurling, which is played through the air an advantage in points); and Goals-Points-And-Behinds (worth 6 points, 3 Points and 1 Point respectively as opposed to 3 points for a goal an one for a point usually).There is also a Camogie-Shinty version of the game for Women.

Venues

Venue	Location
Athenry	Co. Galway, Ireland
Bught Park	Inverness, Highlands, Scotland
Croke Park	Dublin, Ireland
Clare	Ireland
Fort William	Highlands, Scotland
Pairc an Gael	Limerick, Ireland

References

Logos

[1] Pinterest (2020) GAA Logo [Internet] Available from: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/dd/fb/a4/ddfba4a8da99008f3d9008846b0dd8a3.jpg [Accessed 6 December 2020]

[2] Camanachd Association (2017) Camanachd Association Logo [Internet] https://www.shinty.com/uploads/news-images/_w800fit/camanach-logo-wide.jpg [Accessed 9 March 2018]

Sources

[3] Anon. (1998) “The series, the results”. Kilkenny People, Friday, March 13, 1998. pg. 42.

[4] Anon. (1998) “All The Results”. Kilkenny People. Friday, March 20, 1998. pg. 17.

[5] Anon. (1999) “Irish fail to care enough”. Irish Independent. Monday, March 15, 1999. Pg, 46.

Copies of the Irish Independent & Kilkenny People are available to view online at http://www.irishnewsarchive.com which is a subscription service.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Roisin NicDhonnacha.

About this document

Researched, compiled and written by Enda Mulcahy for the

Eirball | GAA World Archive

Last Updated: 6 December 2020

(c) Copyright Enda Mulcahy and Eirball 2019-2020

You may quote this document in part provided that proper acknowledgement is given to the authors. All Rights Resereved.