Category: Ireland v Scotland (Hurling-Shinty)

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Hurling-Shinty Internationals Ireland v Scotland 2000-2009

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Ireland v Scotland 2000-2009

DateLocationHome Away 
2000Croke ParkIreland2-10-15 (57)Scotland3-3-5 (32)
2001     
2002Croke ParkIreland2-0-13 (19)Scotland4-1-1 (15)
2003Fort WilliamScotland3-7 (16)Ireland5-9 (24)
2004RatoathIreland3-10 (19)Scotland4-7 (19)
2005Bught ParkScotland20Ireland17
2006Croke ParkIreland2-5 (11)Scotland2-13 (19)
2007     
2008DurrowIreland1-9 (12)Scotland1-10 (13)
2009Bught ParkScotland1-8 (11)Ireland1-11 (14)
[Reference: 2-23]

Venues

VenueLocation
Bught ParkInverness, Highlands, Scotland
Croke ParkDublin, Ireland
Cusack ParkEnnis, Co. Clare, Ireland
Pairc EslerNewry, Co. Down, Ireland
Fort WilliamHighlands, Scotland
AthyCo. Kildare, Ireland
RatoathCo. Meath, Ireland
[Reference: 2-23]
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Report

Ireland and Scotland have shared honours almost equally between 2000 and 2009, with Ireland going on a winning streak from 2000-2003, before Scotland won from 2005-2008. In 2010 the series became a home-and-away series with the aggregate score over two legs deciding the winners.

About

The first Hurling-Shinty International Rules match was played back in 1897 in Glasgow between Cowal (Scotland) and Celtic (Dublin). [1] There have been regular Internationals between Ireland and Scotland since 2000.

Shinty is very similar to Hurling and the two games would have the same Gaelic Celtic origin with Shinty most popular in Gaelic Scots part of Scotland, particularly the Highlands. The game, however, does not include over-the-bar points, only goals and there is less play in the air than in Hurling.

The International Rules series includes points-over-the-bar and in the early 2000s included ‘behinds’ like in International Rules Football between Ireland and Australia.

The scoring system is three points for a goal and one for a point (over-the-bar). In 2012 an experimental scoring system was used whereby a goal was worth 5 points. From 2000-2003 a scoring system was employed whereby a goal was worth 6 points, an ‘over’ 3 points, and a ‘behind’ (a score into posts either side of the two main posts) 1 point.

13-a-side or 14-a-side have both been employed, halfway between Hurling’s 15-a-side and Shinty’s 12-a-side. Bot teams play with their own sticks, so it is a game played with two different sets of equipment.

References

Sources

[1] (2000) “SHINTY”. Nenagh Guardian. Saturday, October 21, 2000. pg. 18-19

[2] (2000) “Gantley shunts Shinty stars”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 16, 2000. p. 26-27.

[3] (2002) “Clinical O’Leary and Keane sink Scotland”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 21, 2002. p. 40-41.

[4] (2003) “Ireland 24 Scotland 16”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 27, 2003. p. 34.

[5] (2004) “Ireland 3-10 Scotland 4-7”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 18, 2004. p. 30-31.

[6] (2005) “Loughlin’s heroics not enough to save Irish unbeaten run”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 10, 2005. p. 46-47.

[7] (2006) “Shinty double for Scotland”. Irish Independent. Monday, November 6, 2006. p. 38-39.

[8] (2008) “GAA Scoreboard: Shinty”. Irish Independent. Monday, October 20, 2008. p. 26-27.

[9] (2009) “Dooley goal ends six-year wait for title”. Irish Independent. Monday, November 2, 2009. pp. 46-47.

Past copies of the Irish Independent and Nenagh Guardian can be found at the Irish Newspaper Archive which is a subscription service: http://www.irishnewsarchive.com

Images

[22] Donegal Daily (2017) GAA Logo [Internet] Available from: http://www.donegaldaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/gaa-logo.png [Accessed 2 December 2017]

[23] Camanachd Association (2017) Camanachd Association Logo [Internet] https://www.shinty.com/uploads/news-images/_w800fit/camanach-logo-wide.jpg [Accessed 9 March 2018]

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Conor Connolly-Mulcahy & Dara Conolly-Mulcahy

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Last Updated: 22 December 2020

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Hurling-Shinty Internationals Ireland v Scotland 1988-1999

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Results

DateVenueHome TeamAway Team
1988Bught ParkScotland4Ireland6
1989Croke ParkIreland4Scotland5
1990Bught ParkScotland5Ireland3
1991Pairc an GaelIreland6Scotland6
1992Bught ParkScotland3Ireland6
1993Bught ParkScotland4Ireland2
1994AthenryIreland3Scotland3
1995Fort WilliamScotland5Ireland4
1996ClareIreland0-10 (10)Scotland3-8 (17)
1997Croke ParkIreland1-9 (12)Scotland3-8 (17)
1998Scotland0-12 (12)Ireland0-7 (7)
1999Scotland3-6 (15)Ireland2-1 (7)
Hurling-Shinty Internationals Ireland v Scotland 1988-1999 [Reference: 1-3]
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Report

The Hurling-Shinty International Series between Ireland and Scotland, which had been discontinued in 1980, was revived in 1988. The first five encounters were fairly evenly matched, and Ireland split the series 2-2 with Scotland, with one drawn match. From then on Scotland took over, winning 6 of the next seven encounters, with one tie, despite the scoring system changing from goals only to goals (3 Points) and overs (1 point) in 1996, which should have given Ireland an advantage as the Scottish game is played mostly on the gounnd with no overs. It was said in one report in the Irish Independent in 1999, that the Irish failed to care enough. With a new millennium dawning a new approach was necessary from Ireland, it was said.

About Hurling-Shinty International Rules

Hurling-Shinty International Rules, also known as Compromise Rules, is a game featuring as its name suggests a compromise between the two codes of Gaelic Hurling: Irish Hurling (15-a-side and Points over the bar as well as goals) and Scottish Shinty (12-a-side, Goals only). currently the sport is 14-a-side with both goals and points over tha bar counting, although in the past 13-a-side has been used, as well numerous scoring systems, such as Goals-and-points, Goals-only, Goals-and-Points-with-a-double-score-for-a-Scottish-Shinty-Point (Shinty is played on the ground, giving Hurling, which is played through the air an advantage in points); and Goals-Points-And-Behinds (worth 6 points, 3 Points and 1 Point respectively as opposed to 3 points for a goal an one for a point usually).There is also a Camogie-Shinty version of the game for Women.

Venues

VenueLocation
AthenryCo. Galway, Ireland
Bught ParkInverness, Highlands, Scotland
Croke ParkDublin, Ireland
ClareIreland
Fort WilliamHighlands, Scotland
Pairc an GaelLimerick, Ireland

References

Logos

[1] Pinterest (2020) GAA Logo [Internet] Available from: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/dd/fb/a4/ddfba4a8da99008f3d9008846b0dd8a3.jpg [Accessed 6 December 2020]

[2] Camanachd Association (2017) Camanachd Association Logo [Internet] https://www.shinty.com/uploads/news-images/_w800fit/camanach-logo-wide.jpg [Accessed 9 March 2018]

Sources

[3] Anon. (1998) “The series, the results”. Kilkenny People, Friday, March 13, 1998. pg. 42.

[4] Anon. (1998) “All The Results”. Kilkenny People. Friday, March 20, 1998. pg. 17.

[5] Anon. (1999) “Irish fail to care enough”. Irish Independent. Monday, March 15, 1999. Pg, 46.

Copies of the Irish Independent & Kilkenny People are available to view online at http://www.irishnewsarchive.com which is a subscription service.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Roisin NicDhonnacha.

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Hurling-Shinty Internationals Ireland v Scotland 1972-1979

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GAA Crest [Reference: 1]

Results

DateVenueHome TeamAway Team
??.08.72InvernessScotland4-5 (17)Ireland6-4 (22)
19.05.73Croke ParkIreland2-16 (22)Scotland2-7 (13)
??.??.74InvernessScotland1-6 (9)Ireland3-8 (17)
1975cancelled
07.08.76GlasgowScotland5Ireland5 aet
28.05.77Athletic GroundsIreland5Scotland1
01.07.78Fort WilliamScotland3Ireland7
12.07.79Douglas, IOMIreland7Scotland3
Hurling-Shinty Internationals Ireland v Scotland 1972-1979 [Reference: 1]

Report

The Hurling-Shinty International Series, first played in 1897, was revived in 1972 for the first time since the Tailteann Games of 1932. The Compromise Rules of the Tailteann Games were used with the first three games goals (3 Points) and Overs (1 Point), Ireland winning all three, having the advantage that there are no overs in Shinty and the Scottish game is largely played on the ground. The 1975 contest was cancelled and the series came back in 1976 as a goals-only contest with Ireland winning three of the matches, and one ending in a draw after extra-time. The series was discontinued from 1980-1987.

About Hurling-Shinty International Rules

Hurling-Shinty International Rules, also known as Compromise Rules, is a game featuring as its name suggests a compromise between the two codes of Gaelic Hurling: Irish Hurling (15-a-side and Points over the bar as well as goals) and Scottish Shinty (12-a-side, Goals only). currently the sport is 14-a-side with both goals and points over tha bar counting, although in the past 13-a-side has been used, as well numerous scoring systems, such as Goals-and-points, Goals-only, Goals-and-Points-with-a-double-score-for-a-Scottish-Shinty-Point (Shinty is played on the ground, giving Hurling, which is played through the air an advantage in points); and Goals-Points-And-Behinds (worth 6 points, 3 Points and 1 Point respectively as opposed to 3 points for a goal an one for a point usually).There is also a Camogie-Shinty version of the game for Women.

Venues

VenueLocation
Athletic GroundsCork, Ireland
Croke ParkDublin, Ireland
DouglasIsle of Man
Fort WilliamHighlands, Scotland
GlasgowScotland
InvernessHighlands, Scotland

References

References

Crests

[1] Wikipedia (2020) Gaelic_Athletic_Association [Internet] Available from: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ga/a/ad/Gaelic_Athletic_Association.png [Accessed 11 November 2020]

Sources

[3] Anon. (1998) “The series, the results”. Kilkenny People, Friday, March 13, 1998. pg. 42.

Copies of the Kilkenny People are available to view online at http://www.irishnewsarchive.com which is a subscription service.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Conor Connolly-Mulcahy & Dara Conolly-Mulcahy

About this document

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Conor Connolly-Mulcahy & Dara Conolly-Mulcahy

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Hurling-Shinty International Tailteann Games Ireland v Scotland 1924-1932

Tailteann Games Programme 2 & 3 August 1932
Tailteann Games Programme 2 & 3 August 1932 [Reference: 1]

Results

DateVenueHome TeamAway Team
1924TaraIreland1Scotland2
1928TaraIrelandScotland
1932TaraIreland6Scotland1
Reference: [1-2]

Report

The first Compromise Rules were drawn up for Hurling-Shinty at the Tailteann Games in 1924, celebrating the revival of Celtic culture. The Ancient Tailteann games were the Celtic version of the Greek Olympic Games, and were played in 1924, 1928, and 1932, with teams and contestants called from all over the world where the Gaelic Diaspora lived.

Scotland won the first of these encounters 2-1, with Ireland winning the third 6-1. The result of the 1928 contest is currently unknown.

Scotland and Ireland Captains shake hands before the Hurling-Shinty International at the Tailteann Games in 1924
Scotland and Ireland Captains shake hands before the Hurling-Shinty International at the Tailteann Games in 1924 [Reference: 4]

References

Programmes

[1] Folklore of Ireland Twitter Account (2020) DIREGG9W4AEGN3Q [Internet] Available from: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIREGG9W4AEGN3Q?format=jpg&name=small [Accessed 11 November 2020]

Sources

[2] Anon. (1998) “The series, the results”. Kilkenny People, Friday, March 13, 1998. pg. 42.

[3] Anon. (1924) “Scots Shinty team beats Ireland” Aberdeen Press and Journal. Monday, August 4, 1924. pg. 8

Copies of the Kilkenny People are available to view online at http://www.irishnewsarchive.com which is a subscription service.

Copies of the Aberdeen Press and Journal are available online at https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ which is also a subscription service.

Images

[4] Folklore of Ireland Twitter Account (2020) DIazYh1VYAAjqt8 [Internet] Available from: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIazYh1VYAAjqt8?format=jpg&name=small [Accessed 11 November 2020]

Acknowledgements

Thanks to Richard Mulcahy, Conor Connolly-Mulcahy & Dara Conolly-Mulcahy

About this document

Researched, compiled and written by Enda Mulcahy for the

Eirball | GAA World Archive

Last Updated: 11 November 2020

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